Documentation Foldmonitor vs Documentation

[cgunhouse]

I created a .btm to test the parameters of FOLDERMONITOR based on my understanding of the documentation for it. The file contains:

foldermonitor /c

foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (1) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (2) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (3) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches /E"c:\jpsoft\Batches\*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (4) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup /E"c:\jpsoft\Startup\*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (5) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches c:\jpsoft\Startup /E"c:\jpsoft\Batches\*.bak" /E"c:\jpsoft\Startup\*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (6) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2

After running the .BTM file if I execute FOLDERMONITOR, I get:

c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (1) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (2) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Batches c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (3) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (4) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (5) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Batches c:\jpsoft\Startup /E"c:\jpsoft\Batches\*.bak" /E"c:\jpsoft\Startup\*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (6) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2​

Now I use an editor that makes a backup (.bak extension) of file and then save the new version. So let us save test.btm in “c:\jpsoft\Startup” and here is the results:

(2) DELETED 1 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(2) RENAMED 2 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) RENAMED 3 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(2) MODIFIED 4 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(2) CREATED 5 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) MODIFIED 6 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) MODIFIED 7 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) MODIFIED 8 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm​

The editor actually does a lot to backup and save, but of all the foldmonitor commands only,

foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (2) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2​

worked.

The documentation says:

If you want to monitor multiple conditions for a file or folder, put them into a single FOLDERMONITOR command. FOLDERMONITOR creates a separate thread for each FOLDERMONITOR command, so if you have multiple commands you will be wasting CPU time, RAM, and risk having command executed simultaneously in different threads.​

Based on this, we should have got:

(3) DELETED 1 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(3) RENAMED 2 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(3) RENAMED 3 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(3) MODIFIED 4 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(3) CREATED 5 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(3) MODIFIED 6 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(3) MODIFIED 7 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(3) MODIFIED 8 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm​

The documentation says:

/E


Filename to be excluded. If you want to exclude multiple files, use multiple /E options. If you want to exclude a file in a specific subdirectory, the filename should include the relative path from the folder name. The name can include wildcards.​

So we should have got:

(5) RENAMED 1 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(5) CREATED 2 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(5) MODIFIED 3 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(5) MODIFIED 4 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(5) MODIFIED 5 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) RENAMED 1 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) CREATED 2 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) MODIFIED 3 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) MODIFIED 4 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) MODIFIED 5 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm​

The "/E" issue was fixed:
19.02.38 FOLDERMONITOR - fixed a problem with /E (not matching the documentation)

Does this mean there is still an issue with "/E"?
It also appears that multiple directories references on a single command doesn't work.

 

[cgunhouse]

Tried changing the order of the multiple directories as follows :

foldermonitor /c
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (1) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (2) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (3) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches /E"*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (4) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup /E"*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (5) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup c:\jpsoft\Batches /E"*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (6) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches /E"c:\jpsoft\Batches\*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (7) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup /E"c:\jpsoft\Startup\*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (8) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2
foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Startup c:\jpsoft\Batches /E"c:\jpsoft\Batches\*.bak" /E"c:\jpsoft\Startup\*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo (9) %%_folderaction %%_foldercount %%_foldername %%_folderfile1 %%_folderfile2

When I do a FOLDERMONITOR, I get:

c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (1) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (2) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Startup c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (3) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (4) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (5) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Startup c:\jpsoft\Batches /E"*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (6) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Batches CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (7) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Startup CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (8) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
c:\jpsoft\Startup c:\jpsoft\Batches /E"c:\jpsoft\Batches\*.bak" /E"c:\jpsoft\Startup\*.bak" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) echo (9) %_folderaction %_foldercount %_foldername %_folderfile1 %_folderfile2
​

Notice that the "/E" part for 4, 5, 7 and 8 is missing.

When I save Test.btm, I now get:

(3) DELETED 1 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(9) DELETED 1 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(6) DELETED 1 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(2) DELETED 1 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(3) RENAMED 2 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(9) RENAMED 2 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) RENAMED 2 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) RENAMED 2 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(3) RENAMED 3 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(9) RENAMED 3 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(6) RENAMED 3 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(2) RENAMED 3 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(3) MODIFIED 4 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(9) MODIFIED 4 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(6) MODIFIED 4 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(2) MODIFIED 4 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm.bak
(3) CREATED 5 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(9) CREATED 5 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) CREATED 5 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) CREATED 5 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(3) MODIFIED 6 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(9) MODIFIED 6 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) MODIFIED 6 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) MODIFIED 6 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(3) MODIFIED 7 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(9) MODIFIED 7 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) MODIFIED 7 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) MODIFIED 7 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(3) MODIFIED 8 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(9) MODIFIED 8 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(6) MODIFIED 8 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
(2) MODIFIED 8 c:\jpsoft\Startup test.btm
​

So that is looking better, but I don't think that the highlighted items should be there.
The second directory appears to be ignored, only the first directory appears to be monitored.

 

[vefatica]

In (3) and (6), it seems that you have specified TWO folders. I don't think you can do that. When I try, there's no error, but only the first one specified is monitored.

foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches c:\jpsoft\Startup <====????

foldermonitor c:\jpsoft\Batches c:\jpsoft\Startup <====????

 

[cgunhouse]

I'm not sure, foldermonitor, seems to indicate it might.

I'm not always sure how to read the documentation:

If you want to monitor multiple conditions for a file or folder, put them into a single FOLDERMONITOR command. FOLDERMONITOR creates a separate thread for each FOLDERMONITOR command, so if you have multiple commands you will be wasting CPU time, RAM, and risk having command executed simultaneously in different threads.

 

[vefatica]

Multiple "conditions", not multiple folders. I'm familiar with the function used to monitor a directory. You only get to specify one handle (to a directory to be watched), though it can be told to also monitor (all) subdirectories of that directory.

 

[cgunhouse]

I know what it says but "/E" didn't show up for the single folder, basically I was throwing everything in there to see what worked and what did. I don't think that "/E" is working.

 

[vefatica]

There's something funny about "/E". When I do this

v:\> foldermonitor v:\ /E"*.foo" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo %%_folderfile1

and from another instance,

v:\> del abc.txt
Deleting V:\abc.txt
  1 file deleted

v:\> touch /c abc.txt
2016-03-17 23:12:10.280  V:\abc.txt

I get no report from FOLDERMONITOR. I would have thought the default would be to include everything that's not excluded. But in this case I can't get FOLDERMONITOR to report anything at all.

OTOH, if I

foldermonitor v:\ /I"*" /E"*.foo" CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER echo %%_folderfile1

and, in another instance,

v:\> touch /c abc.txt
2016-03-17 23:14:00.230  V:\abc.txt

v:\> del abc.txt
Deleting V:\abc.txt
  1 file deleted

v:\> del abc.foo
Deleting V:\abc.foo
  1 file deleted

v:\> touch /c abc.txt
2016-03-17 23:18:31.720  V:\abc.txt

v:\> touch /c abc.foo
2016-03-17 23:18:48.163  V:\abc.foo

it works as expected, reporting on abc.txt and not reporting on abc.foo.

 

[Bill de Haan]

I've been trying to use FOLDERMONITOR, with zero success. I started with trying to get a MSGBOX to appear if a certain file is created, and that didn't work, despite the file being created. So I dropped back to the absolute basic case of setting up a monitor event for a created file and creating the file, and that doesn't work either.

So obviously I'm doing something wrong, but I've gone over the documentation and for the life of me, I can't see what's wrong with this:

[d:\dir]ver
TCC 18.00.18 Windows 7 [Version 6.1.7601]

[d:\dir]foldermonitor
No folders/files are being monitored.

[d:\dir]foldermonitor %_CWD% /I Final.txt CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED FOREVER copy Final.txt \temp

[d:\dir]echo this is a test > Final.txt

[d:\dir]dir /km Final.txt
6/27/2016 5:54p 16 Final.txt

[d:\dir]dir /km \temp\
TCC: (Sys) The system cannot find the file specified.
"D:\temp\*"

[d:\dir]foldermonitor
D:\dir Final.txt CREATED DELETED MODIFIED RENAMED (0/FOREVER) copy Final.txt \temp
​

Does anything see anything wrong with this? I've tried all sorts of permutations, but nothing seems to work. Is there. All of the %_FOLDERxxxxx% variables are empty, as I'd expect. Is there some hook that's missing, or some initialization I need to do prior to invoking FOLDERMONITOR?

 

[vefatica]

Use /I"Final.txt" or /IFinal.txt ... no space.

 

[Bill de Haan]

Use /I"Final.txt" or /IFinal.txt ... no space.

Argh. For want of a nail...

Thanks. I was positive I'd tested it both with and without spaces, but I guess not.

Thanks again.